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Re: The Nigerian Woman's Infertility, Her Husband's Childlessness?

The trend here is women are against Jones opinion and men are for it. For me, I have seen enough things to know what obtainable in our society. No matter what people say, when
the koko occurs, it isn't the sentiments that are being expressed here that would come to pass. Most people's opinion would differ if it is their family member. It is quite different if the issue is that you are having girls only. Besides, can someone please quote from the Bible where polygamy is a sin? 

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  1. Anonymous4/23/2013

    What does Scripture say about Polygamy?

    In Matt. 19:4 we are told by Jesus that God created one “male and [one] female” and joined them in marriage. Mark 10:6-8:"But from the beginning of the creation, God 'made them male and female.' 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 'and the two shall become one flesh'; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh.
    The two as one is the pattern on how marriage was to be conducted from the start. NOT three or four as one.

    Eve was taken from Adams body and given back to him as his wife (singular) showing God’s approval of what the marriage union is to be like. God always spoke of man's “wife,” as singular, not wives. Notice it also states one father one mother.

    It wasn’t until sin made man fall (Gen. 4:23) that polygamy occurs. Cain was cursed, Lamech is a descendent of Cain and the first to practice polygamy. The first time polygamous relationship is found in the Bible is with a thriving rebellious society in sin; when a murderer named “Lamech [a descendant of Cain] took for himself two wives” (Gen.4:19, 23).

    The same Godly pattern of one man and one wife is lived by Noah. At the time of the Ark (Gen. 7:7), Noah took his one wife into the ark, all his son’s took one wife; God called Noah’s family righteous and pure. If polygamy were ordained of God, it would have made sense that Noah and his sons would have taken additional wives with them to repopulate the earth faster from the cataclysm.

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  2. Anonymous4/23/2013

    This was to be a permanent union between man and woman that they might be helpful to one another (Genesis 2:18). Marriage represents a relationship of both spiritual and physical unity.

    Hebrews 13:3-4: “Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.”

    We have examples of saints in the Old Testament going off the commandment i.e Solomon, but this is not God approved. Many of the patriarchs took more than one wife. Abraham, by recommendation of Sarah, took her maid. Jacob was tricked through Laban, into taking Leah first, and then Rachel, to whom he had been betrothed. polygamy was not wrong in ancient cultures, but was a departure from the divine institution that God ordained.

    In the Bible I count 15 examples of polygamy from the time of Lamech to 931 A.D. 13 of these men had enough power that no one could call into question their practice, they were unaccountable or no one dared approach them. Lamech Genesis 4:19; Abraham Genesis 16; Esau Genesis 26:34; 28:9; Jacob Genesis 29:30; Ashur 1 Chronicles 4:5; Gideon Judges 8:30; Elkanah 1 Samuel 1:2; David 1 Samuel 25:39-44; 2 Samuel 3:2-5; 5:13; 1 Chronicles 14:3; Solomon 1 Kings 11:1-8; Rehoboam 2 Chronicles 11:18-23; Abijah 2 Chronicles 13:21; Jehoram 2 Chronicles 21:14; Joash 2 Chronicles 24:3; Ahab 2 Kings 10; Jehoiachin 2 Kings 24:15; Belshazzar Daniel 5:2; 1 Chronicles 2:8; Hosea in Hosea 3:1,2. Polygamy is mentioned in the Mosaic law and made inclusive on the basis of legislation, and continued to be practiced all down through the period of Jewish history to the Captivity, after which there is no instance of it on record (Gen.29:15-30, Jacob and his wives.)

    Was Abraham, David Solomon condemned or approved for practicing polygamy? Well they certainly did not get blessed for it! The fact that every polygamist in the Bible like David and Solomon (1 Chron. 14:3) were punished. This should be evidence that this is not God’s will.

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  3. Anonymous4/23/2013

    God never condoned polygamy but like divorce he allowed it to occur and did not bring an immediate punishment for this disobedience. Deut. 17:14-17: “I will set a king over me like all the nations that are around me,' “you shall surely set a king over you whom the LORD your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother. But he shall not multiply horses for himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt to multiply horses, for the LORD has said to you, 'You shall not return that way again.' “Neither shall he multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away; nor shall he greatly multiply silver and gold for himself.” This is the command of God, and he has never changed it.

    1 Kings 11:3 says Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines violating the principle of monogamy that he was given through the law of Moses. Consider that Solomon at one time was the wisest man in the world. In I Kings 11:4: “For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father.” Notice Solomon became a polytheist because he was influenced in polygamy. In his case many wives, became many gods. Scripture has always commanded monogamy (Ps.128:3; Prov. 5:18; 18:22; 19:14; 31:10-29; Eccl. 9:9).

    The fact is that God never commanded polygamy or divorce. Scripture says (Bible) He only permitted it because of the hardness of their hearts (Deut. 24:1; Matt. 19:8). Matt. 5:31-32: “Furthermore it has been said, “Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce. But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery.” God hates divorce as well as polygamy, since it destroys the family (Mal. 2:16). Whatever the patriarchs or any Christian did wrong does not change the fact the Bible condemns it.

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  4. Anonymous4/23/2013

    There are some stipulations in the law that are connected to this subject. Matt. 22:24: “Teacher, Moses said that if a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother.” This is based on the commandment found in Deut. 25:5-6: “If brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no son, the widow of the dead man shall not be married to a stranger outside the family; her husband's brother shall go in to her, take her as his wife, and perform the duty of a husband's brother to her. “And it shall be that the firstborn son which she bears will succeed to the name of his dead brother, that his name may not be blotted out of Israel. ”

    Multiple wives was tolerated but never with God's approval. Jesus told the Jews, "Because of your hardness of heart, Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way" (Matthew 19:3-8). The Mosaic law aimed at mitigating, rather than removing, evils that were inseparable from the state of society in that day. Its enactments were directed to the discouragement of polygamy; to prevent the injustice frequently consequent upon the exercise of the rights of a father or a master; to bring divorce under some restriction; and to enforce purity of life during the maintenance of the matrimonial bond.

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  5. Anonymous4/23/2013

    The Bible says adultery is not a choice, one does not have to acquire another wife to solve his urges. Jesus said if you look upon another woman with desire (married or not) it is adultery, a sin.

    Paul insisted that a leader in the church should be “the husband of one wife,” a deacon or elder must have one wife... Titus 1:6.

    The New Testament teaches that, “Each man [should] have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband” (1 Cor. 7:2). Monogamous marriage teaches us the type of the relation Christ has between himself and His bride, the church (Eph. 5:31-32). The church is called the bride, collectively as one (singular) each person is not a bride, as in plurality of wives and marriages.

    How many wives did Adam have in Gen.2:24? One, God did not take two wives out from his side. Monogamy has always been God's standard for the human race. From the very beginning God set the pattern by creating a monogamous marriage relationship -one man and one woman, Adam and Eve (Gen. 1:27; 2:21-25). It cannot be interpreted he became one with “each wife”; then this would mean he would be a husband to each, committing adultery. God certainly could have made two or more wives for Adam, this would have endorse the idea of polygamy, but he made only one.

    The Bible clearly and decidedly states that God does not condone or allow the practice of polygamy over and over again.

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  6. kendra4/23/2013

    I was gonna send mail to anty eya dis morning about this same issues but decided not to anymore...

    Men are very selfish and u all have the effontry to say women are selfish. I remember one post where a woman came for advice saying she's fertile and its the husband who isn't,but he wants his brother to help him out and u all said no,she shouldn't do it. This is a clear case of abraham and sarah where sarah gave hagar to abraham,this man gave his brother to the wife but u all said she shouldn't do it.why didn't u men tell her to go ahead and sleep with the brother? Now the tables av turned and u spitting out such? Saying things like this? Oh God? And u have such effontry to call women selfish..


    Hello, so many men suffer infertility problems are there wives are made to endure.. Outsiders even go ahead and call the woman names not knowing the man is the problem. They women bear such pain and agony believing in God and u men have the audacity to say if ur wife have such issues u will go ahead and have a child outside? Supporting the imooral thing that lady did? She obviously wanted to be pregnant for that man,cos the man told her what he told herand she felt she can live a good life by been the mother of his child, now am sure the man told her he's just gonna have his baby and still be with his wife and she came here wanting pity or advice from us. Which we did give her. She broke a home and u men expected us to clap for her?

    So what if u men are imptent and u find out ur wife is pregnant for a boy outside ur marriage? U will applaud? And smile? And do what? Pls,when u talking,u men should be considerate. What is good for the goose is also good for the gender. But urself in the person's shoes before spitting out anything u want to say... There are lots of women who don't have kids today cos there husband are impotent,low sperm count and so forth and they r still faithful,believing in God and knowing he will do it for them...

    If the woman had given this young lady to her husband,then that is when u will qualify it to sarah,abraham and hagar but she didn't. Neither did she marry the girl for the man? Neither did they come to an agreement that he should sleep around and get a child cos if she did this,she would gladly bring the girl to the house to have the child and the girl wouldn t be looking for advice her

    Selfish men

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    1. candid diva4/23/2013

      Kendra dear,MEN didn't support it o! Two BOYS with myopic views were d ones in support. Johnson, a MAN disagreed!

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  7. Anonymous4/23/2013

    1 Corinthians 7:2

    But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

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  8. Anonymous4/23/2013

    Titus 1:6

    If anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination.

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  9. Anonymous4/23/2013

    Matthew 19:4-6

    He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

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  10. See heavy selfishness! and frankly this selfishness is evident in regular situations in marriages (including mine) at various degrees. From as little as what TV program to watch. Well, me I am learning to put myself first and I'm enjoying it. Thank God I have children so putting myself first won't be an extreme case such as this.

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  11. I understand the point that some of us women who are criticising might support our brothers on this. My sister inlaw forexample has just one child and her husband is fertile, she is the one with problem, yet she enjoys a happy marriage. Can u believe that this woman and her mother went to secretly marry a younger woman for her uncle because his wife could bear children. The uncle now comes secretely to the village to sleep with this new wife. Of course the real wife got to find out and marriage don end.

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  12. Anonymous4/23/2013

    Men are alweya quick to judge women bt give flimzy excuses to defend their illicit actions.#Ugo#

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  13. Nna men... Una don turn this post to theology class!

    Biko, Jiri ya nwayo ooo

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